Indholdsfortegnelse Side Kort overblik 2 Reginar I Lotharingen og Alberada Van Henegouwen 4 Kildemateriale 6 Giselbert I Van Leuven & Irmingard Der Franken Ane nr. 28180580612/28180580613 Reginar I Lotharingen & Alberada Van Henegouwen Symphonia Lotharingen 14090290306/14090290307 (=28180579758) 7045145153 Robert I Van Namen 3522572576 Albert I Van Namen 1761286288 Albert II Van Namen 880643144 Albert III V. Namen 440321572 Henri Van Namen 220160786 Beatrice Van Namen 110080393 Godevaart I V.Breda 55040196 Goodevaart II Breda 27520098 Sofie Van Breda 13760049 Joannes van Gavere Eksaerde 6880024 Wilhelmus Van Gavere Eksaarde 3440012 Willem Van Gavere 1720006 Kathelijne Van Gavere - Haasdonk 860003 Katelijne Hutzers - Haasdonk 430001 Willem Scoemaekers 215000 Petrus Scoemaekers 107500 Petrus Scoemaekers 53750 Livine Scoemakere 26875 Margriete V. Couteren Sint-Niklaas 13437 Dierik Ver Braecken Sint-Niklaas 6718 Johanna Ver Braken Sint-Niklaas 3359 Catharina De Maere Tielrode 1679 Amelberga Vernimmen - Thielrode 839 Marie Anne Smedt - Thielrode 419 Anne Petron. Everaert Thielrode 209 Robert Van Landeghem Thielrode 104 Bruno Van Landeghem Thielrode 52 Julien Van Landeghem Thielrode 26 Christ. V. Landeghem Boom 13 Emiel Jan Person Antwerpen 6 Louisa Augusta Person Åbyhøj 3 Grete A./Emil H. Sørensen - Lind/Værløse 1 aner\14090290306/nov.2012 Side 0
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REGINAR I VAN LOTHARINGEN & ALBERADA VAN HENEGOUWEN Reginar I Van Lotharingen er født omkring 850 som søn af Giselbert I Van Leuven og Irmingard Der Franken. Hans fødested er det endnu ikke lykkedes at opspore. Alberada Van Henegouwen er født omkring 870. Hendes fødested og forældre er det endnu ikke lykkedes at opspore. Reginar I Van Lotharingen og Alberada Van Henegouwen får 3 børn. aner\14090290306/nov.2012 Side 2
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Reginar I Van Lotharingen og Alberada Van Henegouwen Reginar I Van Lotharingen har tidligere været gift med Irmtrud Der Franken (se ane nr. 28180579758/28180579759). Reginar I Van Lotharingen og Alberada Van Henegouwen bosætter sig måske i Lotharingen. Her får de 3 børn: 1. 890, ca. - Reinier II Van Henegouwen 2. 900, ca. - Symphonia Van Lotharingen 3. 900, ca. - Giselbert Van Lotharingen. Reginar I Van Lotharingen er i nogle år greve af Henegouwen/ Hainault, Lotharingen, Haspengouw, Masau og Luhgau. Omkring 900 er han desuden hertug af Henegouwen. Sønnen Reinier II Van Henegouwen (ane nr. 14090289400) gifter sig med Adelheid Van Bourgondië (ane nr. 14090289401). De får 2 børn: Reinier III og? Van Henegouwen. Datteren Symphonia Van Lotharingen (ane nr. 7045145153) gifter sig med Berengarius Van Namen (ane nr. 7045145152). De får 1 søn: Robert I van Namen. Sønnen Giselbert Van Lotharingen gifter sig med Gerberga Van Saksen. De får følgende børn: Gerberga -, Alberada -, Haduidis - og Henrik Van Lotharingen. aner\14090290306/nov.2012 Side 4
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Kildemateriale Kildemateriale 1: Van-den-hout/Familien Reginar I Van Lotharingen www.van-den-hout.nl/index.p Reginar I Langhals van Lotharingen (van de Darnau) Geslacht: Man Geboren: Ca 850 Overleden: 25.8.915-15.1.916 te Onbekend Begraven: te Meerssen Limburg Vader: Giselbert I van Leuven van de Darnau Moeder: Irmingard der Franken (der Karolingen) Huwelijk : Alberada van Henegouwen? van Lotharingen? Geslacht: Vrouw Geboren: Ca 850 Overleden: Ca 916 Kind(eren): Giselbert van Lotharingen (van de Darnau) Geslacht: Man Geboren: Ca 896 Overleden: 3 Okt 939 te Andernach (Dld) (verdronken in de Rijn) Huwelijk: Ca 925 Gerberga van Saksen Ludolf. Kildemateriale 2: Herweijer/Familien Reginar I Van Lotharingen Generatie XXV 19202532 REINIER I (LANGHALS), geboren ca. 850, overleden te tussen 25-8-915 en 15-1-916. Hij was graaf in Henegouwen, Lotharingen, Haspengouw, Masau en Luhgau. Verder hertog van Lotharingen ca. 900. In de kwst. Kwekel (Prometheus II) wordt niet hij, maar zijn kleinzoon "Langhals" genoemd. Zoon van GISELBRECHT (zie 38405064) en IRMGARD (zie 38405065). 19202533 ALBERADA, erfgename van Henegouwen, overleden na 916. Sønnen Giselbrecht: Generatie XXIV 9601266 GISELBRECHT, hertog van Lotharingen 928, geboren ca. 880, overleden op 03-10-0939 te bij Andernach, zoon van REINIER I (LANGHALS) (zie 19202532) en ALBERADA (zie 19202533). Gehuwd 928 met 9601267 = 4801093 GERBERGA VAN SAKSEN. aner\14090290306/nov.2012 Side 6
Kildemateriale 3: Kareldegrote/Familien Reginar I Van Lotharingen http://home.planet.nl/ ~ prin2855/kareldegrote/d1.htm#c14533 Karel De Grote = Første generation. 4. Generation: (33. Karel II De Kale Der Franken was born on 13 Jun 823 in Frankfurt A.D. Main (Dld), died on 6 Oct 877 in Avrieux Karel married Ermentrudis Van Orleans, daughter of Odo Van Orleans and Engeltrude Van Parijs, on 13 Dec 842 in Saint-Denis (Fr) Quierzy. Ermentrudis was born about 825 and died on 6 Oct 869 in Saint Denis (Fr) about age 44. Children from this marriage were:) 64 F iii. Hersent Van Frankrijk was born about 850. Hersent married Reinier I Langhals Van Lotharingen, son of Giselbrecht I Van Leuven Van De Darnau and Irmingard Der Franken. Reinier was born about 850, died about 915 in (Tussen 25 Aug 915-15 Jan 916) about age 65, and was buried in Meerssen. Another name for Reinier was Reginar. 5. Generation: 91. Reinier I Langhals Van Lotharingen was born about 850, died about 915 in (Tussen 25 Aug 915-15 Jan 916) about age 65, and was buried in Meerssen. Another name for Reinier was Reginar. General Notes: Hij was graaf in Henegouwen, Lotharingen, Haspengouw, Masau en Luhgau. Verder hertog van Lotharingen ca. 900. In de kwst. Kwekel (Prometheus II) wordt niet hij, maar zijn kleinzoon "Langhals" genoemd. Reinier married Alberada Van Henegouwen Van Lotharingen in 892. Alberada was born about 850 and died after 916. Children from this marriage were: + 136 M i. Reinier II Van Henegouwen was born about 892 and died about 936 about age 44. + 137 M ii. Giselbert Van Lotharingen was born about 896 and died on 3 Oct 939 in Andernach (Dld) about age 43. + 138 Fiii. Symphoronia Van Henegouwen Van De Darnau was born about 900 and died about 946 about age 46. Reinier next married Hersent Van Frankrijk, daughter of Karel II De Kale Der Franken and Ermentrudis Van Orleans. Hersent was born about 850. Reinier next married Irmtrud Der Franken, daughter of Lodewijk II De Stamelaar Van West Francië Der Franken and Adelheid Judith Van Parijs. Irmtrud was born about 875 and died about 910 about age 35. The child from this marriage was: + 139 F i. Kundegonde Der Franken was born about 889 and died about 940 about age 51. aner\14090290306/nov.2012 Side 7
Kildemateriale 3: Kareldegrote/Familien Reginar I Van Lotharingen fortsat 109. Irmtrud Der Franken was born about 875 and died about 910 about age 35. Irmtrud married Reinier I Langhals Van Lotharingen, son of Giselbrecht I Van Leuven Van De Darnau and Irmingard Der Franken. Reinier was born about 850, died about 915 in (Tussen 25 Aug 915-15 Jan 916) about age 65, and was buried in Meerssen. Another name for Reinier was Reginar. (Duplicate Line. See Person 91) Kildemateriale 4: Voort359/Familien Reginar I Van Lotharingen http://home.planet.nl/~voort359/home3brabt.htmlchild of Children Giselbert of the Darnau (the Maasgouw) (?-after 876) and Irmingard of Karolingians (830-?): Adalbert I of the Maasgouw * 847 x Unknown + 928 Reginar (Reinier) I of the Darnau, Margrave of Lorraine, Count in Hainaut * 850? x Alberada + between 25-8-915 and 15-1-916 After Louis "The Child", the last Karolingian King of East-Francia (Germany), had died in 911 without heirs, Reginar I and other leaders asked King Charles III "The Simple" of West-Francia to be the ruler of the eastern part of Charlemagne's former Empire as well. Reginar I was made Margrave of Lorraine and was the most powerful regional lord. For his descendants see below Children of Reginar (Reinier) I of the Darnau, Margrave of Lorraine, Count in Hainaut (850?-915?) and Alberada (860?-?): Giselbert, Duke of Lorraine * before 890 x Gerberga of Saxony + 3-10-939 (Andernach). In 919 Giselbert led the revolt against King Charles III who was taken prisoner in 923. The German King Heinrich I "The Fowler" took over control of Lorraine in 925. From then on, it formally remained part of the German Empire until 1648. King Heinrich made Giselbert Duke of Lorraine in 928 and let him marry his daughter Gerberga in order to secure his support. In 936 Heinrich's son Otto I succeeded and started to curb the political influence of Giselbert and other important local rulers. They turned to the King of West-Francia for support. Things were decided in 939 at the battle of Andernach, which Otto won. Giselbert himself drowned in the Rhine, and the duchy of Lorraine was given to Otto's brother Bruno (Brun), Archbishop of Cologne, see the page on the "Liudolfings" of Saxony. Later it ended up with the offspring of Wigeric, Count in the Triergau (Trèves), of the Bidgau, Count Palatine of Aix-la Chapelle (Aachen), Count Palatine of Lorraine. For Giselbert's descendants see below. aner\14090290306/nov.2012 Side 8
Kildemateriale 5: Wissenburg/Familien Reginar I Van Lotharingen 20.777.881.730 Reginar van de DARNAU Familienaam Index 20.777.881.730 Vader 41.555.763.460 Moeder 41.555.763.461 Tevens 41.555.725.440, 83.111.528.668 Geboren ca. 850 Overleden tussen 25-8-915 en 15-1-916 bmeersen Ook bekend als Reinier I. Hertog van Henegouwen, de Haspengau, Lotharingen, na 911 Missus Dominicus; verkreeg Stavelot in 902 en later de St. Servaas in Maastricht. Reginar bezit tal van landgoederen in Wallonië en stroomafwaarts langs de Maas; ondersteunt zijn achterneef de Westfrankische koning Karel III in diens strijd tegen Eudes (893-897); is eerst de voornaamste medewerker van koning Zwentibold wanneer deze Lotharingen als koninkrijk van zijn vader Arnulf heeft ontvangen 895 (hij verkrijgt dan Sint-Servaas te Maastricht en treed op als leke-abt van Echternach), die echter weldra met hem breekt, hem Sint Servaas ontneemt 13-5-898 en hem tot tweemaal toe vergeefs belegert in zijn veste Durfost. Hij wendt zich opnieuw tot Karel de Eenvoudige die Aken en Nijmegen verovert en Zwentibolt tot vlucht dwingt; erkent nadat deze laatste gesneuveld is (13-8-900) wel diens opvolger Lodewijk 'het Kind' en de toen aangestelde hertog Gebhard; verwerft ook Stavelot 902 en, opnieuw Sint Servaas; wordt (ook in oorkonden) met verschillende titels aangeduid (graaf, markgraaf, na 921 ook missus dominicus); bezit in zijn laatste levensjaren ook nog Sankt Maximum (buiten Trier) en Chèvremont (bij Luik). Reginar is ook genoemd (zeer omzichtig) als mogelijke vader van Kunegonde der Franken, Zie 41.555.763.490 Huwt (1) 20.777.881.731 Alberada N. Index 20.777.881.731 Vader onbekend Moeder onbekend Tevens 41.555.725.441 Ook aangeduid als Hersendis. Huwt (2) 83.111.528.669 Hersant van LOTHARINGEN Familienaam Index 83.111.528.669 Vader 83.111.526.944 Moeder 83.111.526.945 Geboren 865 Waarschijnlijk zijn de eerste en tweede vrouw identiek. Kinderen: Reinier II van Henegouwen Zie 20.777.862.720 N. van de Darnau Zie 10.388.940.865 Giselbert Zie 41.555.764.334 aner\14090290306/nov.2012 Side 9
Kildemateriale 6: Wikipedia/Familien Reginar I Van Lotharingen Reinier I van Henegouwen of Reinier Langhals, ook Reginar, (~850 - ~915,[1] Meerssen) was een zoon van Giselbert I van Maasgouw en een niet bij naam bekende dochter van Lotharius I. Leven: Hij volgde zijn vader op in de Maasgouw. Hij bezat tal van landgoederen in Wallonië en langs de Maas. Hij steunde aanvankelijk Karel de Eenvoudige in diens strijd tegen Odo I van Frankrijk. Volgens Dudo van Saint-Quentin was hij graaf van Henegouwen en Haspengouw en voerde hij in 870 met Radbod, de leider van de Friezen, een leger aan tegen de Vikingen onder leiding van Rollo in Walcheren. Dudo's betrouwbaarheid is echter niet onbetwist. In de Capitulare van Quierzy uit 877, wordt hij genoemd naast zijn vader als één van de regenten van het koninkrijk tijdens de afwezigheid van Karel de Kale die oorlog voerde in Italië. Aanvankelijk steunde hij Zwentibold en koos hem samen met enkele anderen tot koning in 895 en verkreeg hiervoor St. Servaes en de benoeming tot lekeabt van Echternach in 897. Hij brak echter met de koning in 898. Na de dood van Odo nodigden zij Karel de Eenvoudige uit om de heerschappij in Lotharingen over te nemen. Zijn land werd hem daarop ontnomen, maar hij weigerde dit op te geven en nam positie in in de buurt van Maastricht. Vertegenwoordigers van Karel, Zwentibold en Arnulf van Karinthië ontmoetten elkaar in Sankt Goar en spraken af dat de opvolging naar Lodewijk het Kind zou gaan. Zwentibold werd uiteindelijk door de rebellen gedood in augustus 900. Aanvankelijk leek Lodewijk zich tegen Reinier te keren toen hij Gebhard aanstelde in Lotharingen, maar de twee streden nooit tegen elkaar. In 908 overleed Sigard en herkreeg Reinier Henegouwen. Na de dood van Gebhard in 910 in een slag tegen de Hongaren volgde Reinier hem op. Na de dood van Lodewijk het Kind in 910 weigerde de adel van Lotharingen onder leiding van Reinier zijn opvolger Koenraad I van Frankenland trouw te zweren, maar erkende Karel de Eenvoudige van West-Frankenland. Deze stelde vervolgens Reinier aan tot markgraaf. Hij kreeg de titel marchio van Karel in 915. Hij wordt nergens genoemd als hertog van Lotharingen, maar was zeker de militaire leider van het gebied onder Karel. Hij werd opgevolgd door zijn zoon Giselbert II, maar hun dynastie slaagde er niet in om een hegemonie in Lotharingen te vestigen zoals de Liudolfingen in Saksen en de Liutpoldingen in Beieren. aner\14090290306/nov.2012 Side 10
Kildemateriale 6: Wikipedia/Familien Reginar I Van Lotharingen fortsat Nageslacht: Reinier was gehuwd met Hersinde, en was de vader van; Giselbert II (~890-939) Reinier II van Henegouwen Een dochter, gehuwd met Berengarius van Namen. Volgens sommige bronnen was hij ook gehuwd met Ermentrudis, dochter van Karel de Eenvoudige, een postume zoon van Lodewijk de Stamelaar en van diens tweede echtgenote Adelheid van Parijs Bronnen, noten en/of referenties: Noten Hij stierf tussen 25 augustus 915 en 19 januari 916, mogelijk niet later dan 15 november 915. aner\14090290306/nov.2012 Side 11
Kildemateriale 7: MedLands/Familien Reginar I Van Lotharingen http://fmg.ac/projects/medlands/hainaut.htm HAINAUT Chapter 1. COMTES de HAINAUT [998]-[1051] (REGINAR family) 5 REGINAR [I] -898, [908]-915, REGINAR [II] 916-[932], REGINAR [III] [932]-958. 5 REGINAR [I] "Langhals/Longneck", son of [GISELBERT Graaf van Maasgau & his wife --- of Lotharingia] ([850]-Meerssen [25 Aug 915/19 Jan 916]). The primary source which confirms his parentage has not yet been identified. The Annales Hanoniæ name "Manicherius filius [Albonis]" (in a later passage clarified to be "Manicerius Registensis dominus") as "pater aut avunculus primi Ragineri" and "Raginerus dictus Longi-colli filius eius" [6], which, as explained in the Introduction, must be incorrect. The Annales Hanoniæ name "Rignerius Montensis comes" as the ally of "Francone episcopo Leodiensi" against the Vikings in 870, and in a later undated passage "Raginerus" fighting "cum Frissonibus in Walacria contra Rollonem" [7], although it is unclear from the context whether these references are to "Raginerus dictus Longi-colli". Guillaume de Jumièges describes how "Rainier au long cou duc de Hasbaigne et du Hainaut et Radbold prince de Frise" fought the Viking Rollo but were forced back to their castles [8]. The date when Reginar was installed as Comte de Hainaut is uncertain but was probably during the last quarter of the 9th century. An agreement dated 14 Jun 877 of Emperor Charles II "le Chauve", presumably written with his own death in mind, names "Arnulfus comes, Gislebertus, Letardus, Matfridus, Widricus, Gotbertus, Adalbertus, Ingelgerus, Rainerus" as those willing to support the emperor's son if he travels across the Meuse [9], although it is curious that "Giselbertus Rainerus" should both be included if one was the father of the other. The Annales Vedastini name "Balduinus comes et Rodulfus frater eius necnon et Ragnerus" when recording that they joined Zwentibold of Lotharingia in 895 [10]. The Breve Chronicon Epternacense names Reinerus as abbot of Echternach from 897 to 915 [11]. Regino records that in 898 Zwentibold King of Lotharingia banished "Reginarium ducem sibi fidissimum et unicum consiliarium" who went with "Odacro comite et quibusdam aliis, cum mulieribus et parvulis" to "Durfos" (near "Mosa flu-vius") where they were besieged [12]. The passage appears to be the only indication that Reginar was granted the title duke. Reginar was presumably rehabilitated after King Zweintibold was murdered, as shown by the following charter. Ludwig IV "das Kind" King of Germany confirmed an exchange of property between Kloster Stablo and "Reginarius comes" by charter dated 10 Sep 902 [13]. King Ludwig IV also confirmed an exchange of property involving "Reganarius comes" by charter dated 20 Oct 906 [14], and a donation of property " in pago ac in comitatu Hainuense" to the church of Tongern at the request of "Kepehardus et Reginharius comites" by charter dated 18 Jan 908 [15]. aner\14090290306/nov.2012 Side 12
Kildemateriale 7: MedLands/Familien Reginar I Van Lotharingen fortsat "Raginarius comes" and the abbot of Stavelot granted property "in pago Hasbanio in locis Honavi, Versines et Serangio" to "quidam fidelium nostrorum Harduinus" by charter dated 911, signed by "Ragenarii comitis, Issaac comitis, Macineri comitis " [16]. Reginar was installed as marchio by Charles III "le Simple" King of the West Franks in 915. Lay-abbot of St Servatius at Maastricht before May 898, and of Stablo and Malmédy 900-902. Richer records the death of "Ragenerus vir consularis et nobilis cognomento Collo-Longus" at "apud Marsnam palatium" [17]. m ALBERADA, daughter of ---. The primary source which confirms her name has not yet been identified. 868/916. Rösch speculates that she was heiress of Hainaut [18]. Guillaume de Jumièges describes how the wife of "Rainier au long cou" returned captured prisoners to Rollo and paid him gold, silver and all the taxes of the duchy, but does not name her [19]. 1. GISELBERT [II] ([885/900]-drowned in the Rhine, near Andernach 2 Oct 939). Richer records that "Gisleberto eius filio" succeeded on the death of "Ragenerus vir consularis et nobilis cognomento Collo-Longus" [20]. Created dux in 928 by Heinrich I King of Germany, effectively creating him GISELBERT Duke of Lotharingia. - GRAAFEN van MAASGAU. 2. REGINAR [II] ([885/900]-932 or after). The Annales Hanoniæ name "Raginerus" as son of "Raginerus dictus Longi-colli" [21]. The Miraculæ S. Maximi record that [22]. The primary source which confirms that Reginar [II] was Comte de Hainaut has not yet been identified, but this is probably correct. - see below. 3. other children: see GRAAFEN van MAASGAU. Noter/Referencer: [5] Available at <http://home.scarlet.be/heraldus/indexbaronnies. htm> (6 Nov 2007). [6] Iacobi de Guisia Annales Hanoniæ VIII.XII and XIII.XXXIX, MGH SS XXX Part 1, pp. 114 and 163. [7] Iacobi de Guisia Annales Hanoniæ XIV.X and XIV.XVI, MGH SS XXX Part 1, pp. 172 and 174. [8] Guizot, M. (ed.) (1826) Histoire des ducs de Normandie, par Guillaume de Jumiège (Paris) ( WJ ), II.8, p. 38. [9] Karoli II Imp. Conventus Carisiacensis, MGH LL 1, p. 537. [10] Annales Vedastini 895, MGH SS I p. 529. [11] Breve Chronicon Epternacense, Veterum Scriptorum IV, cols. 507 and 509. [12] Reginonis Chronicon 898, MGH SS I, p. 608. [13] D LK 16, p. 119. [14] D LK 50, p. 174. [15] D LK 57, p. 183. [16] Veterum Scriptorum II, col. 38. [17] Guadet, J. (ed.) (1845) Richeri Historiarum (Paris), I.XXXIV, p. 70. aner\14090290306/nov.2012 Side 13
Kildemateriale 7: MedLands/Familien Reginar I Van Lotharingen fortsat [18] Rösch, S. (1977) Caroli Magni Progenies (Verlag Degener & Co, Neustadt an der Aisch), p. 108. [19] WJ II.8, p. 40. [20] Richer I.XXXIV, p. 70. [21] Iacobi de Guisia Annales Hanoniæ VIII.XII, MGH SS XXX Part 1, p. 114. [22] Ex Sigehardi Miraculis S. Maximini, MGH SS IV, p. 232. [23] Iacobi de Guisia Annales Hanoniæ VIII.XII, MGH SS XXX Part 1, p. 114. aner\14090290306/nov.2012 Side 14
Kildemateriale 7: MedLands/Familien Reginar I Van Lotharingen fortsat http://fmg.ac/projects/medlands/lotharingian%20(lower)%20nobility. htm#reginaridied915 LOWER lotharingia, nobility Chapter 10. GRAVEN van MAASGAU (MASAU) 100 REGINAR [I] "Langhals/Longneck", son of GISELBERT [I] Graf van Maasgau & his wife --- of Lotharingia ([850]-Meerssen [25 Aug 915/19 Jan 916]). The primary source which confirms his parentage has not yet been identified. The Annales Hanoniæ name "Manicherius filius [Albonis]" (in a later passage clarified to be "Manicerius Registensis dominus") as "pater aut avunculus primi Ragineri" and "Raginerus dictus Longicolli filius eius" [778], which, as explained in the Introduction, must be incorrect. The Annales Hanoniæ name "Rignerius Montensis comes" (although the reference to his being Comte de Mons appears to be anachronistic) as the ally of "Francone episcopo Leodiensi" against the Vikings in 870, and in a later undated passage "Raginerus" fighting "cum Frissonibus in Walacria contra Rollonem" [779], although it is unclear from the context whether these references are to "Raginerus dictus Longicolli". Guillaume de Jumièges describes how "Rainier au long cou duc de Hasbaigne et du Hainaut et Radbold prince de Frise" fought the Viking Rollo but were forced back to their castles [780]. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois Fontaines also refers to "Rainerus Hainonensium comes et Hasbanii dux" fighting the Vikings, dated to 876 [781]. An agreement dated 14 Jun 877 of Emperor Charles II "le Chauve", presumably written with his own death in mind, names "Arnulfus comes, Gislebertus, Letardus, Matfridus, Widricus, Gotbertus, Adalbertus, Ingelgerus, Rainerus" as those willing to support the emperor's son if he travelled across the Meuse [782], although it is curious that "Giselbertus Rainerus" should both be included if one was the father of the other. The date when Reginar was installed as Comte de Hainaut is uncertain but was probably during the last quarter of the 9th century, certainly after the date of the 877 agreement for his county would then not have been "across the Meuse". The Annales Vedastini name "Balduinus comes et Rodulfus frater eius necnon et Ragnerus" when recording that they joined Zwentibold of Lotharingia in 895 [783]. The Breve Chronicon Epternacense names Reinerus as abbot of Echternach from 897 to 915 [784]. Regino records that in 898 Zwentibold King of Lotharingia banished "Reginarium ducem sibi fidissimum et unicum consiliarium" who went with "Odacro comite et quibusdam aliis, cum mulieribus et parvulis" to "Durfos" (near "Mosa fluvius") where they were besieged [785]. The passage appears to be the only indication that Reginar was granted the title duke. Reginar was presumably rehabilitated after King Zweintibold was murdered, as shown by the following charter. aner\14090290306/nov.2012 Side 15
Kildemateriale 7: MedLands/Familien Reginar I Van Lotharingen fortsat Ludwig IV "das Kind" King of Germany confirmed an exchange of property between Kloster Stablo and "Reginarius comes" by charter dated 10 Sep 902 [786]. King Ludwig IV also confirmed an exchange of property involving "Reganarius comes" by charter dated 20 Oct 906 [787], and a donation of property " in pago ac in comitatu Hainuense" to the church of Tongern at the request of "Kepehardus et Reginharius comites" by charter dated 18 Jan 908 [788]. "Raginarius comes" and the abbot of Stavelot granted property "in pago Hasbanio in locis Honavi, Versines et Serangio" to "quidam fidelium nostrorum Harduinus" by charter dated 911, signed by "Ragenarii comitis, Issaac comitis, Macineri comitis " [789]. Reginar was installed as marchio by Charles III "le Simple" King of the West Franks in 915. Lay-abbot of St Servatius at Maastricht before May 898, and of Stablo and Malmédy 900-902. Richer records the death of "Ragenerus vir consularis et nobilis cognomento Collo-Longus" at "apud Marsnam palatium" [790]. m ALBERADA, daughter of ---. The primary source which confirms her name has not yet been identified. 868/916. Maybe heiress of Hainaut [791]. Guillaume de Jumièges describes how the wife of "Rainier au long cou" returned captured prisoners to Rollo and paid him gold, silver and all the taxes of the duchy, but does not name her [792]. Count Reginar [I] & his wife had three children: 1. GISELBERT [II] ([885/900]-drowned in the Rhine, near Andernach 2 Oct 939). Richer records that "Gisleberto eius filio" succeeded on the death of "Ragenerus vir consularis et nobilis cognomento Collo-Longus" [793]. The Miraculæ S. Maximi names "Gisilbertus admodum iuvenis dux", in a passage dated to the early 10th century 794]. Abbot of Stablo 915/925. On the death of Giselbert's father in [915/16], Charles III "le Simple" King of the West Franks refused to install Giselbert as marchio [795]. The Breve Chronicon Epternacense records that Giselbertus filius eius succeeded Reinerus as abbot of Echternach in 924, although the dating of this passage appears faulty [796]. King Charles III "le Simple" restored Kloster Susteren to the abbey of Prüm by charter dated 19 Jan 916 which names "fidelium nostrorum Widricus comes palatii, Richuuinus comes, Gislebertus, Matfridus, Beringerius comites, Theodericus comes, Reinherus comes, Erleboldus" [797]. Giselbert rebelled against King Charles III in 918, and sought help from Heinrich of Saxony (later king of Germany). He later opposed Heinrich after his accession in Germany, and maybe planned to install himself as independent ruler in Lotharingia in 920 [798]. Richer records that Giselbert was awarded the vacant properties "Traiectum, Iuppilam, Harstalium, Marsnam, Littam, Capræmontem" after he returned to favour [799]. Widukind records that "Isilberhtum adolescentem" was "nobili genere ac familia antiqua natus" when Heinrich I King of Germany betrothed his daughter to him, maybe dated to [925] [800]. aner\14090290306/nov.2012 Side 16
Kildemateriale 7: MedLands/Familien Reginar I Van Lotharingen fortsat Flodoard's Annals record that "Berengarius" captured "Giselbertum" and only freed him after receiving "filiis Ragenarii fratris ipsius Gisleberti" as hostages, after which Giselbert ravaged the lands of "Berengarii, Ragenariique fratris sui et Isaac comitis" [801]. The king's forces under Eberhard [Konradiner] secured Lotharingia's submission to German overlordship in 925 [802]. Abbot of St Maximin at Trier 925/934. Created dux in 928 by Heinrich I King of Germany, effectively creating him GISELBERT Duke of Lotharingia. Liutprand names him "Gislebertum Lotharingorum ducem" when recording his marriage [803]. "Gysalbertus dux rectorque S. Traiectenses ecclesie" donated property "Gulisam in pago [Ardunensi] in comitatu Everhardi" to Trier by charter dated 928, subscribed by "Walgeri comitis, Thiedrici comitis, Cristiani comitis, Folcoldi comitis" [804]. "Heinricus rex" granted property to the canons of Crespin at the request of "Gisleberti ducis" by charter dated 24 Oct 931 [805]. He took part in a campaign of pillaging along the Rhine with Eberhard ex-duke of Franconia and Heinrich, brother of Otto I King of Germany, and was drowned [806]. Flodoard's Annals record that "Gislebertus dux et Otho, Isaac atque Theodericus comites" offered the French crown to Louis IV "d'outremer" King of the West Franks in 939 [807]. Regino records that "Gisalbertus" was drowned in the Rhine in 939 [808]. m ([928/929]) as her first husband, GERBERGA of Germany, daughter of HEINRICH I King of Germany & his second wife Mathilde [Immedinger] (Nordhausen [913/14]-Reims 5 May 984, bur Abbaye de Reims). Richer records the marriage of "Gisleberto eius filio [Rageneri Collo-Longus]" and "Heinrici Saxoniæ ducis filiæ Gerbergæ" [809]. Liutprand states that the wife of "Gislebertum Lotharingorum ducem" was "regis sororem" [810]. As her marriage to Giselbert coincided approximately with her husband being created dux, it is assumed that the marriage was arranged as part of the terms confirming Giselbert's submission to King Heinrich. Gerberga married secondly (end 939) Louis IV "d'outremer" King of France. Flodoard names her "Gerbergam" when recording her second marriage [811]. Her second husband gave her the Abbey of Notre-Dame de Laon in 951, taken from his mother on her second marriage. Abbess of Notre Dame de Soissons in 959 [812]. Count Giselbert [II] & his wife had four children: a) ALBERADE ([929/30]-). "Mathilde et Alberada" are named as daughters of "Gerberga" in the Continuator of Flodoard, which specifies that Alberade was mother of Ermentrudis but does not name Alberada's husband [813]. Two epitaphs in the church of Saint-Rémy, Marly relate to "Ragenolde" and "Albrada", although neither refers to each other [814]. Bouchard highlights the absence of proof that the husband of Alberade of Lotharingia was Ragenold Comte de Roucy [815]. The parentage of the couple's children is deduced by a combined reading of the different sources which refer to them. aner\14090290306/nov.2012 Side 17
Kildemateriale 7: MedLands/Familien Reginar I Van Lotharingen fortsat However, none of these sources name both parents, so the marriage of Alberade and Ragenold is not without all doubt. Alberade is named in a letter to Poppo of Stablo [816]. m RAGENOLD Comte de Roucy, son of --- (-10 May 967, bur Saint-Rémy). A Viking, he may have been installed originally as military chief at Reims after Artald was restored as archbishop in 946. He constructed a fort at Roucy between 947 and 953, and supported King Lothaire on his expedition to Aquitaine in 955 [817]. b) HADUIDIS (before [934]-). The Liber Memoriales of Remiremont records a donation by "Dumnus Gislibertus dux Dumna Girberga, Ainricus, Haduidis ", undated but dated to [934] [818], which suggests that the last two were children of the first two, although this is not without doubt. [m ---. As mentioned below, nothing is known about the possible husband of Haduidis.] i) [GUY (-after 991). The Acta Concilii Remensis ad Sanctum Basolum (dated to 991) quotes Bruno Bishop of Langres referring to " meumque consobrinum comitem Guidonem" [819]. This Comte Guy has not otherwise been identified. If "consobrinus" is used in its strict sense, he must have been the son of Bishop Bruno's maternal aunt. Of these, the sister of Lothaire King of France, uterine sister of bishop Bruno's mother, was Mathilde Queen of Burgundy, who is not known to have had a son named Guy, and in any case her sons would presumably not have been referred to as "comes". Guy is not one of the known sons of Gerberga Ctss de Vermandois, the bishop's maternal aunt of the full blood, and in any case it would presumably only have been Gerberga's oldest son Héribert who would have been called "comes". This leaves only Haduidis as the possible mother of Guy. If this is correct, nothing is known of her marriage.] c) HENRI (before [934]-[943/45]). The Liber Memoriales of Remiremont records a donation by "Dumnus Gislibertus dux Dumna Girberga, Ainricus, Haduidis ", undated but dated to [934] [820]. [Duke of Lotharingia 943]. Widukind records that "Conrado" was installed as Duke of Lotharingia after the deaths of "Oddone, Lothariorum præside, ac regis nepote Heinrico" [821]. It is suggested that "regis nepote Heinrico" was the son of Giselbert Duke of Lotharingia, and so nephew of Otto I King of Germany. If this is correct, it appears from this passage that he was briefly installed as Duke of Lotharingia before dying soon afterwards. d) GERBERGA ([935]-after 7 Sep 978). Settipani names her as the wife of Comte Albert, and gives her parentage, but does not cite the primary source on which this is based. A list of members of the Cathedral of Paris lists (in order) "Albertus comes, Girberga comitissa, Harbertus, Otto, Lewultus, Girbertus, Gondrada, Ricardus, Harbertus comes ", the first four individuals named apparently being Comte Albert, his wife and three sons, and the last named maybe his brother or nephew [822]. The primary source which confirms her parentage and marriage more precisely has not yet been identified. aner\14090290306/nov.2012 Side 18
Kildemateriale 7: MedLands/Familien Reginar I Van Lotharingen fortsat m ([949/54]) [as his second wife,] ALBERT [I] Comte de Vermandois, son of HERIBERT [II] Comte de Vermandois & his wife Adela [Capet] (-8 Sep 987). 2. REGINAR [II] ([885/900]-932 or after). The Annales Hanoniæ name "Raginerus" as son of "Raginerus dictus Longi-colli" [823]. The primary source which confirms that Reginar [II] was Comte de Hainaut has not yet been identified, but this is probably correct. a) REGINAR [III] (920-973). The Annales Hanoniæ name "Raginerus" as son of "Raginerus [filius Ragineri dicti Longi-colli]" [824]. "Otto rex" confirmed the possession of Kloster Süsteren by Prüm abbey by charter dated 1 Jun 949, signed by "Cuonradus dux, Herimannus dux, Hezzo comes, Godefridus comes, Rudolfus comes, Reginherus comes" [825]. He succeeded his father as Comte de Hainaut, although the date he took control of the county is not known. - COMTES de HAINAUT. b) RUDOLF (-after 24 Jan 966). His parentage is confirmed by Flodoard recording, in 944, that "Hugo dux" requested "Herimann[us] qui missus erat " to besiege "castella Ragnarii ac Rodulfi fratrum, Ludowici regis fidelium" [826], on the assumption that "Ragnarii" refers to Count Reginar [III] (see above). "Otto rex" confirmed the possession of Kloster Süsteren by Prüm abbey by charter dated 1 Jun 949, signed by "Cuonradus dux, Herimannus dux, Hezzo comes, Godefridus comes, Rudolfus comes, Reginherus comes" [827], the order of subscribers' names suggesting that Rudolf may have been considered senior to Reginar although it is not certain that this inevitably means that he was older. Graf von Maasgau "Otto rex" granted property "Cassallo in pago Masalant in comitatu Ruodolfi" to "vassallo nostro Ansfrid" at the request of "nostri fidelis Conradis ducis" by charter dated 7 Oct 950 [828]. Comte de Hesbaie: "Otto rex" granted Kloster Alden-Eyck "in pago Huste in comitatu Ruodulphi" to the bishopric of Liège by charter dated 4 Jul 952 [829]. "Otto imperator augustus" confirmed the donations to the convent of Nivelles by "Regenarius comes" of property "in pago Ardenna super fluvia Aisna in comitatu Waudricia in villa Villaro" and by "predicti Regenarii filius nomine Liechardus in pago Hasbanensi in villa Gingolonham" and by "Rodolphus comes villa Lentlo" by charter dated 24 Jan 966 [830]. The charter dated 17 Jan 966, under which "Otto imperator augustus" granted property "curtem Galmina que quondam Rudolfi erat n pago Haspengewe in comitatu Werenherii qua postmodum fideli nostro comiti Immoni condonavimus" to the Marienkapelle, Aachen [831], describes that Rudolf's property was confiscated, presumably at the same time as his brother Reginar [III] was banished. c) other children: COMTES de HAINAUT. 3. daughter. Flodoard's Annals refers to the wife of "Berengarius" as "sororem [Gislebertum]" but does not name her [832]. m BERENGAR Comte de Namur, son of --- (-before 946). aner\14090290306/nov.2012 Side 19
Kildemateriale 7: MedLands/Familien Reginar I Van Lotharingen fortsat Noter/Referencer: [777] Stavelot 60, p. 142. [778] Iacobi de Guisia Annales Hanoniæ VIII.XII and XIII.XXXIX, MGH SS XXX Part 1, pp. 114 and 163. [779] Iacobi de Guisia Annales Hanoniæ XIV.X and XIV.XVI, MGH SS XXX Part 1, pp. 172 and 174. [780] WJ, II.8, p. 38. [781] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 998, MGH SS XXIII, p. 749. [782] Karoli II Imp. Conventus Carisiacensis, MGH LL 1, p. 537. [783] Annales Vedastini 895, MGH SS I p. 529. [784] Breve Chronicon Epternacense, Veterum Scriptorum IV, cols. 507 and 509. [785] Reginonis Chronicon 898, MGH SS I, p. 608. [786] D LK 16, p. 119. [787] D LK 50, p. 174. [788] D LK 57, p. 183. [789] Veterum Scriptorum II, p. 38. [790] Richer I.XXXIV, p. 70. [791] Rösch (1977), p. 108. [792] WJ II.8, p. 40. [793] Richer I.XXXIV, p. 70. [794] Ex Sigehardi Miraculis S. Maximini 11, MGH SS IV, p. 231. [795] McKitterick (1983), p. 309. [796] Breve Chronicon Epternacense, Veterum Scriptorum IV, col. 507. [797] Mittelrheinisches Urkundenbuch, I, 159, p. 222. [798] Fuhrmann (1995), p. 140. [799] Richeri Historiæ I, 39, MGH SS III, p. 580. [800] Widukindi I, 30, MGH SS III, p. 430. [801] Flodoardi Annales 924, MGH SS III, p. 373. [802] Reuter, T. (1991) Germany in the early middle ages c.800-1056 (Longman), pp. 140-1. [803] Liudprandi Antapodosis IV.20, MGH SS III, p. 321. [804] Mittelrheinisches Urkundenbuch, I, 169, p. 233. [805] D H I 30, p. 65. [806] Thietmar 2.34, p. 117. [807] Flodoardi Annales 939, MGH SS III, p. 386. [808] Reginonis Chronicon, Continuator Reginonis Trevirensis 939, MGH SS I, p. 618. [809] Richer I.XXXV, p. 70. [810] Liudprandi Antapodosis IV.20, MGH SS III, p. 321. [811] Flodoard 939, MGH SS III, p. 386. [812] Settipani (1993), p. 330. [813] Flodoard Addit codex 1 (inserted after 966), MGH SS III, p. 407. [814] RHGF IX, p. 105. aner\14090290306/nov.2012 Side 20
Kildemateriale 7: MedLands/Familien Reginar I Van Lotharingen fortsat [815] Bouchard, C. B. (1987) Sword, Miter, and Cloister: Nobility and the Church in Burgundy 980-1198 (Cornell University Press), p. 169. [816] Siegfried of Gorze, letter to Poppo of Stablo, in Gisebrecht, W. von (ed.) (1885) Geschichte der deutschen Kaizerseit, 5 th ed., II (Leipzig), pp. 714-8, cited in Bouchard (1987), p. 269, the author highlighting the absence of sources which name her husband. [817] McKitterick (1983), p. 321. [818] Hlawitschka, E. (ed.) (1970) Liber Memorialis von Remiremont (Berlin, MGH), p. 9, Hlawitschka (1969), p. 57, suggesting the estimated date. [819] Acta Concilii Remensis ad Sanctum Basolum, auctore Gerberto Archiepiscopo 9, MGH SS III, p. 661. [820] Liber Memorialis von Remiremont, p. 9, Hlawitschka (1969), p. 57, suggesting the estimated date. [821] Widukindi Res Gestæ Saxonicæ II.33, MGH SS III, p. 447. [822] Obituaires de Sens Tome I.2, Eglise cathedrale de Paris, p. 1015. [823] Iacobi de Guisia Annales Hanoniæ VIII.XII, MGH SS XXX Part 1, p. 114. [824] Iacobi de Guisia Annales Hanoniæ VIII.XII, MGH SS XXX Part 1, p. 114. [825] D O I 111, p. 194. [826] Flodoardi Annales 944, MGH SS III, p. 390. [827] D O I 111, p. 194. [828] D O I 128, p. 209. [829] D O I 154, p. 235. [830] D O I 318, p. 432. [831] D O I 316, p. 429. [832] Flodoardi Annales 924, MGH SS III, p. 373. [833] Van den Bergh, L. P. C. (1852) Handboek der Middel-Nederlandsche Geographie (Leiden), p. 205. aner\14090290306/nov.2012 Side 21