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1 Indholdsfortegnelse Side Kort overblik 2 Hendrik I Van Limburg og Adelheid Van Leoben 4 Kildemateriale 8 Udo/Walraven II Van Limburg &? Boto Van Leoben & Judith Van Schweinfurt Ane nr / / Hendrik I Van Limburg & Adelheid Van Leoben / Machteld Van Limburg Beatrice Van Namen Godevaart I Van Breda Goodevaart II V. Breda Sofie Van Breda Joannes van Gavere Eksaerde Wilhelmus Van Gavere Eksaarde Willem Van Gavere Kathelijne Van Gavere - Haasdonk Katelijne Hutzers - Haasdonk Willem Scoemaekers Petrus Scoemaekers Petrus Scoemaekers Livine Scoemakere Margriete V. Couteren Sint-Niklaas Dierik Ver Braecken Sint-Niklaas 6718 Johanna Ver Braken Sint-Niklaas 3359 Catharina De Maere Tielrode 1679 Amelberga Vernimmen - Thielrode 839 Marie Anne Smedt - Thielrode 419 Anne Petron. Everaert Thielrode 209 Robert Van Landeghem Thielrode 104 Bruno Van Landeghem Thielrode 52 Julien Van Landeghem Thielrode 26 Christ. V. Landeghem Boom 13 Emiel Jan Person Antwerpen 6 Louisa Augusta Person Åbyhøj 3 Grete A./Emil H. Sørensen - Lind/Værløse 1 aner\ /nov.2012 Side 0

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3 HENDRIK I VAN LIMBURG & ADELHEID VAN LEOBEN Hendrik I Van Limburg er født omkring 1055 som søn af Udo/Walraven II Van Limburg og?. Hans fødested er det endnu ikke lykkedes at opspore. Adelheid Van Leoben er født omkring 1060 som datter af Boto Van Leoben og Judith Von Schweinfurt. Hendes fødested er det endnu ikke lykkedes at opspore. Hendrik I Van Limburg og Adelheid Van Leoben får 5 børn. Adelheid Van Leoben dør i 1106, Hendrik I Van Limburg i aner\ /nov.2012 Side 2

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5 Hendrik I Van Limburg og (Beatrix) Van Arlon (Beatrix) Van Arlon er datter af greve Waleran II d Arlon og Judith de Luxembourg (datter af Frederik Van Luxemburg og Gerberge Van Boulogne. Hendrik I Van Limburg og (Beatrix) Van Arlon bliver gift omkring (Beatrix) Van Arlon dør formentlig omkring Hendrik I Van Limburg og Adelheid Van Leoben Hendrik I Van Limburg og Adelheid Van Leoben bosætter sig i? Her får de følgende børn: 1. 10xx, - Waleran II Van Limburg 2. 10xx, - Agnes Van Limburg 3. 10xx, - Adelheid Van Limburg , ca. - Machteld (Mathilde) Van Limburg 5. 10xx, - Hendrik Van Limburg. Hendrik I Van Limburg er - fra 1070 til 1119 greve af Limburg, - i 1080 greve af Aarlen (Arlon), og - fra 1101 til 1106 hertug af Neder-Lotharingen og markgreve af Antwerpen. aner\ /nov.2012 Side 4

6 Alsace-Lorraine (Elzas-Lotharingen) år 2000 Hendrik I grundlægger i 1093 abbediet (klosteret) Laach. Han deltager i det første korstog i Sønnen Waleran II Van Limburg gifter sig med Jutta Van Geldern, datter af greve Gerhard I Flamens af Wassenberg. Datteren Agnes Van Limburg gifter sig først med Friedrich IV Von Putelendorf, og efter dennes død med Walo den yngre Von Veckenstedt. Datteren Adelheid Van Limburg gifter sig først med greve Friedrich den stridbare Von Arnsberg, efter dennes død med greve Kuno Von Horburg, og efter dennes død med greve Konrad II Von Dachau. Datteren Machteld (ane nr ) gifter sig med Henri Van Namen (ane nr ). De får en datter: Beatrice Van Namen. Adelheid Van Leoben dør i Hendrik I Van Limburg dør i aner\ /nov.2012 Side 5

7 Hendrik Van Limburg s forældre (ane nr / ): Udo/Walraven II Van Limburg og? Udo/Walraven II Van Limburg s forældre, fødselsår og fødested er det endnu ikke lykkedes med sikkerhed at opspore. Udo/Walraven II Van Limburg s hustru er det endnu ikke lykkedes at opspore. Udo/Walraven II Van Limburg og? får følgende børn: Hendrik I Van Limburg og Konrad Von Merheim. aner\ /nov.2012 Side 6

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9 Kildemateriale for ane nr / Kildemateriale 1: Herweijer/Familien Van Limburg Generatie XIX HENDRIK I VAN LIMBURG, graaf van Limburg en Aarlen 1080, hertog van Neder-Lotharingen , overleden 1119, zoon van WALRAVEN II VAN LIMBURG (zie ) en JUTTA VAN LUXEMBURG (zie ) ADELHEID VAN LEOBEN, overleden ca. 1107, dochter van BOTO VAN LEOBEN (zie ) en JUDITTA VAN BEIEREN (zie ). Datteren Machteld: Generatie XVIII HENRI VAN NAMEN, heer van La Roche, voogd van Stavelot, overleden ca. 1135, zoon van ALBERT III VAN NAMEN (zie ) en IDA VAN SAKSEN (zie ) MACHTELD VAN LIMBURG, dochter van HENDRIK I VAN LIMBURG (zie ) en ADELHEID VAN LEOBEN (zie ). T. van der Laars, Wapens, vlaggen en zegels van Nederland, Amsterdam, aner\ /nov.2012 Side 8

10 Kildemateriale 2: A.W.Slager/Familien Van Limburg De graven van Limburg Bij de verdeling tussen Karel de Kale en Lodewijk de Duitser kwam het land van Limburg in het jaar 870 onder het rijk van Lodewijk te vallen. Limburg werd nadien door eigen graven geregeerd. Van deze graven kan alleen graaf Waleram I in 1060 met zekerheid worden genoemd. Deze Waleram I was de bouwer van het slot Limburg. Nadien werd zijn zoon Hendrik in 1101 ook hertog van Neder- Lotharingen en markgraaf van Antwerpen. Omdat keizer Hendrik V hem als zodanig weigerde te huldigen verloor deze Hendrik I van Limburg in 1106 zijn nieuw bezit. Zijn oorspronkelijke graafschap behield hij. Hendrik I van Limburg stierf in Zijn opvolger, Waleram II, kwam in 1128 weer in het bezit van Neder-Lotharingen en Antwerpen en werd in 1129 beschermheer van Duisburg. Waleram II, ook wel Waleram "Peganus" genoemd, stierf in Zijn zoon Hendrik II ( ) was geen hertog van Neder- Lotharingen, maar behield toch de titel van hertog omdat hij zijn gebied in 1155 wist uit te breiden met het graafschap Arlon (oorspronkelijk het bezit van zijn broer Waleram) en grote bezittingen in de Ardennen. Hendrik I was een zoon van graaf Walram I en zou als hertog van Limburg ( ) opvolger van zijn vader zijn. Hij werd in 1101 hertog van Neder-Lotharingen en markgraaf van Antwerpen ( ), in opvolging van Godfried van Bouillon. Hij maakt diens hervormingen ongedaan (zoals de afstand van de aanzienlijke kerkelijke inkomsten, waar hij als hertog recht op had, ten gunste van het Sint-Michielsklooster). Omdat keizer Hendrik V hem niet wilde erkennen verloor hij dit nieuw gebied en moest hij zich tevreden stellen met Limburg. Hij overleed in 1118 en werd opgevolgd door Walram II, die de verloren gegane gebieden zou terug zien te winnen Hertog van Lotharingen Periode Voorganger Godfried van Bouillon Opvolger Godfried I Hertog van Limburg Periode Voorganger Walram I Opvolger Walram II Vader Moeder Walram I Judith van Luxemburg aner\ /nov.2012 Side 9

11 Kildemateriale 3: MedLands/Familien Van Limburg LIMBURG INTRODUCTION The county of Limburg was situated within the duchy of Lower Lotharingia and took its name from the small town of Limburg between Verviers and Eupen in the province of Liège in present-day Belgium. In the present-day, its territory lies within the Belgian provinces of Limburg and Liège, and the province of Limburg in the Netherlands. In medieval times, it lay west of the county of Jülich, north of the county of Luxembourg and the bishopric of Liège, and east of the county of Daelham. It is probable that Limburg originally formed part of the county of Maasgau, around the town of Maastricht, and as such was part of the territories of the family of the comtes de Luxembourg. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines records that Waleran [II] Comte d Arlon, who married the daughter of Frédéric Duke of Lower Lotharingia (from the Luxembourg family), received "dominium ultra Mosam prope Leodium" as the dowry on his marriage and that he constructed "castrum de Lemborch" on the site [1]. The construction of the castle of Limburg can probably therefore be dated to the late 1060s or early 1070s, although there is some doubt whether the report in Alberic can be entirely correct as discussed in Chapter 1 below. Limburg castle passed to Count Hendrik, who must quickly have become an influential force at the court of Emperor Heinrich IV as he was installed as duke of Lower Lotharingia in He was, however, a quarrelsome imperial subject, rebelling against the emperor in the same year (when the castle of Limburg was destroyed by imperial troops) and being deprived of his duchy in Between then and 1139, imperial appointments to the duchy of Lower Lotharingia alternated between the Limburg family and the family of the rival counts of Louvain, each family continuing to claim the ducal title while the duchy was held by the other. The counts of Limburg called themselves dukes of Limburg from 1140, the ducal title presumably being retained in a personal capacity even though they had ceased to be dukes of Lower Lotharingia by that time. No specific imperial order has yet been identified which authorised the new title, although it is clear that it was generally recognised and accepted. aner\ /nov.2012 Side 10

12 Kildemateriale 3: MedLands/Familien Van Limburg fortsat Chapter 1. GRAFEN van LIMBURG. 3 HENDRIK I HENDRIK [I] van Limburg (-1119). There is confusion about the parentage of Hendrik [I] van Limburg. According to Europäische Stammtafeln, he was the son of [Udo] van Limburg and his wife Judith von Salm, who was supposedly daughter of Giselbert Graf von Salm and Comte de Longwy [Wigerich] [22]. If we look at the primary sources, they are contradictory. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines records that "Henricus Lembergensis" was the son of "antiqui Walerani" [23]. It is assumed that "Walerani" was Waleran [II] Comte d Arlon (see above). The Genealogica ex Stirpe Sancti Arnulfi names "Henricum de Lemburc" as the son of "Iuttam", daughter of "Friderici ducis" and his wife Mathilde [24], which, if the reconstruction of the family of the comtes d Arlon is correct, also indicates that Comte Waleran [II] was Hendrik s father. The Gesta Treverorum, on the other hand, refers to "huius comitissa [=Adelheid] neptem, filii filiam" as wife of "Heinricus dux Lempurch" [25]. The countess referred to was the wife of Waleran [I] Comte d Arlon, and in this scenario her son, Waleran [II] Comte d Arlon, would have been the father of Hendrik s wife not of Hendrik himself. The references which have been found to "Udo van Limburg" are set out above, where it is suggested that he was either the son of Frédéric Duke of Lower Lotharingia or the same person as Waleran [II] Comte d Arlon. No other reference has been to "Udo s" supposed wife "Judith von Salm". It is suggested that references to her could easily have resulted from confusion with the wife of Waleran [II], also named Judith/Jutta and also a member of the Salm/Luxembourg family. The question which remains is whether Hendrik van Limburg was the son or the son-in-law of Waleran [II] Comte d Arlon. There is really no way of judging which of the contradictory sources quoted above may be correct. However, if Hendrik s supposed brother Konrad von Merheim did exist as shown below (and it should be noted that no primary source has yet been found which corroborates Konrad s relationship to Hendrik), it appears less likely that Hendrik would have been Waleran s son as, if that had been the case, the sources would probably have named the two brothers together. In addition, no reference to the name Hendrik/Henri has been found in the family of the comtes d Arlon, although it must be emphasised that their known genealogy is limited as can be seen in the document UPPER LOTHARINGIAN NOBILITY. Graaf van Limburg. " Heinricus dux de Lemburg " subscribed the charter dated 1093 under which "Heinricus comes palatinus Rheni et dominus de Lacu uxore mei Adleide" founded the abbey of Laach [26], although, as pointed out in the chapter concerning the comtes d Arlon in UPPER LOTHARINGIAN NOBILITY, the naming of the other witnesses suggests that this charter is spurious. Emperor Heinrich IV installed him as HEINRICH I Duke of Lower Lotharingia in aner\ /nov.2012 Side 11

13 Kildemateriale 3: MedLands/Familien Van Limburg fortsat "Heinricus comes de Lintburh cum Theoderico comite" rebelled against Emperor Heinrich IV in 1101, the castle of Limburg being captured and destroyed by imperial forces [27]. He was deposed as duke in [m firstly --- d'arlon, daughter of WALERAN [II] Comte d'arlon & his wife --- (-[after 1081]). The Gesta Treverorum refers to "huius comitissa [=Adelheid] neptem, filii filiam" as wife of "Heinricus dux Lempurch" [28]. The countess referred to was the wife of Waleran [I] Comte d Arlon, and her son, father of Hendrik van Limburg s wife, would therefore in this scenario have been Waleran [II] Comte d Arlon (see above). The Genealogica ex Stirpe Sancti Arnulfi takes a different view and names "Henricum de Lemburc" as the son of "Iuttam", daughter of "Friderici ducis" and his wife Mathilde [29], in which case Waleran [II] Comte d Arlon would have been Hendrik s father. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines also records that "Henricus Lembergensis" was the son of "antiqui Walerani", which is interpreted as indicating Waleran [II] Comte d Arlon [30]. The sources are therefore contradictory. If the Gesta Treverorum is correct, Hendrik s first wife must have died soon after their marriage as she is not recorded as the mother of his children. It is assumed that she must have died after her father, otherwise it seems likely that Waleran would have disinherited his son-in-law from the castle of Limburg.] m [secondly] ADELHEID von Botenstein, daughter of BOTHO Graf von Botenstein & his wife Judith von Schweinfurt (-after 13 Aug 1106). She is named in the Annalista Saxo, which also specifies her parentage and names her husband [31]. Graf Hendrik & his [second] wife had [five] children: a) WALRAM [II] van Limburg ([1085]-6 Aug 1139). The Annalista Saxo names "Walrabonum ducem qui et Paginus dicebatur" as son of "Heinricus dux de Lintburh" and his wife Adelheid von Botenstein [32]. Graaf van Limburg see below. b) AGNES van Limburg (-1136). The Annalista Saxo names her first of the two daughters of "Heinricus dux de Lintburh" and his wife Adelheid von Botenstein, also naming her husband "Friderico comiti palatino de Putelenthorp" [33]. A later passage names her second husband "Walo iunior de Vakenstide" but incorrectly calls her "sororem Heinrici ducis de Lintburh" [34]. The Chronicon Gozecense names "Agnem, Heinrici ducis de Lintburc filiam" as wife of "palatinus Fridericus" [35]. A later passage names her second husband "Walo iunior de Vakenstide" but also incorrectly calls her "sororem Heinrici ducis de Lintburh" [36]. m firstly (1110) FRIEDRICH [IV] von Putelendorf, son of FRIEDRICH [III] von Goseck & his wife Adelheid von Stade (posthumously [1085]-Dingelstedt [26 Jun] 1125, bur Halberstedt). Pfalzgraf m secondly WALO "der Jüngere" von Veckenstedt (-1126). aner\ /nov.2012 Side 12

14 Kildemateriale 3: MedLands/Familien Van Limburg fortsat c) ADELHEID van Limburg (-6 Feb [1144/46], bur Bamberg St Michael). The Annalista Saxo records the second of the two daughters of "Heinricus dux de Lintburh" and his wife Adelheid von Botenstein as the wife of "Fridericus comes de Arnesberge" but does not name her [37]. "Chuno de Horberch cum uxore sua Adelheit" donated property to Osterhove monastery [38]. The primary source which confirms Adelheid, wife of Kuno, as the widow of Friedrich Graf von Arnsberg has not yet been identified. The primary source which confirms her third marriage has not yet been identified. m firstly FRIEDRICH "der Streitbare" Graf von Arnsberg, son of KONRAD Graf von Werl[-Arnsberg] & his wife Mathilde von Northeim (-11 Feb 1124). m secondly (before 1130) KUNO Graf von Horburg, son of KUNO Graf von Horburg [Lechsgemünd] & his wife [Irmgard von Rott] (-30 Jun [1138/39]). m thirdly (before 19 Mar 1140) as his first wife, KONRAD [II] Graf von Dachau, son of KONRAD [I] Graf von Dachau [Scheyern] & his wife Willibirg --- (-killed in battle near Bergamo 18 Feb 1159, bur Scheyern). d) MATHILDE van Limburg (-after 1148). The origin of the wife of Henri [I] Comte de Laroche is determined from a charter dated 1148 in which Wibald abbot of Stavelot names "dominis suis Heinrico de Rupe et Heinrico de Lemburch quorum alter, id est de Rupe, advocatus ecclesie nostre erat et alterius Heinrici amite filius" [39], the former being Henri [II] Comte de Laroche and the latter Hendrik II Duke of Limburg. She is named in the charter dated 1152 under which "Heinricus comes de Rupe" donated property to the abbey of St Hubert referring to "matris mei Mathildis comitisse et Godefridi fratris mei" [40]. m HENRI [I] de Namur Comte de la Roche, son of ALBERT III Comte de Namur & his wife Ida von Sachsen (-before 5 Jun 1138). e) [HENDRIK van Limburg (-after 1131). The Vita Andreæ, first abbot of Averboden, in the Chronicle written by Nicolas Hogeland Abbot of Middelburg, records that in 1131 "Walravium Limburgi comitem, Lotharingiæ inferioris ducem" wished to install "fratrem suum Henricum in præpositura sancti Lamberti Leodii", which was opposed by "Rainerum de Los præpositum de Fosse, Arnoldi comitis Lossesnis fratrem natu minorem, et Theodoricum de Los primum dominum de Hornes", and that Emperor Lothar appointed "Hermannum de Hornes S. Gereonis præpositum dicti Raineri nepotem, Guidonem de Limburgo sancti Lamberti canonicum etiam dicti Hermanni nepotem Godefridum comitem de Vianden" to arbitrate the dispute [41]. This is the only reference so far identified to this supposed brother of Duke Walram. The source, however, is late and includes inaccuracies. It is not known whether this report is accurate or not.] aner\ /nov.2012 Side 13

15 Kildemateriale 3: MedLands/Familien Van Limburg fortsat Noter/Referencer: [1] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1064, MGH SS XXIII, p [2] Gade, J. A. (1951) Luxemburg in the Middle Ages (Leiden), p [21] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1107, MGH SS XXIII, p [22] ES I [23] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1107, MGH SS XXIII, p [24] Genealogica ex Stirpe Sancti Arnulfi descendentium Mettensis 4, MGH SS XXV, p [25] Gesta Treverorum 16, 1122, MGH SS VIII, p [26] Mittelrheinisches Urkundenbuch 388, p [27] Annalista Saxo [28] Gesta Treverorum 16, 1122, MGH SS VIII, p [29] Genealogica ex Stirpe Sancti Arnulfi descendentium Mettensis 4, MGH SS XXV, p [30] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1107, MGH SS XXIII, p [31] Annalista Saxo [32] Annalista Saxo [33] Annalista Saxo [34] Annalista Saxo [35] Chronicon Gozecense II.11, MGH SS X, p [36] Annalista Saxo [37] Annalista Saxo [38] Monumenta Osterhoviensa, Codex Traditionum III, Monumenta Boica Vol. XII, p [39] Halkin, J. and Roland, C. J. (eds.) (1909) Recueil des Chartes de l'abbaye de Stavelot-Malmédy, Tome I (Brussels) ( Stavelot ) I, 208, p [40] Rousseau, F. (ed.) (1936) Actes des Comtes de Namur de la Première Race (Brussels) ("Namur"), 33, p. 70. [41] Wouters, M. J. (1849) Notice historique sur l ancienne abbaye d Averboden (Gand), Annexes, Vita B. Andreæ primi abbatis Averbodiensis monasterii, XIII, p [42] Annalista Saxo aner\ /nov.2012 Side 14

16 Kildemateriale 3: MedLands/Familien Van Limburg fortsat Lotharingia Chapter 5. DUKES of LOWER LOTHARINGIA. 26 H. DUKES of LOWER LOTHARINGIA (COMTES d'arlon) HEINRICH I , WALERAN III HEINRICH, son of [UDO] von Limburg & his wife Judith von Salm (- 1119). HEINRICH I Graf von Limburg. Emperor Heinrich IV installed him as HEINRICH I Duke of Lower Lotharingia in He was deposed as duke in WALERAN ([1085]-6 Aug 1139). WALERAN III Comte d'arlon Graf von Limburg He was installed as WALERAN Duke of Lower Lotharingia by Emperor Lothar in aner\ /nov.2012 Side 15

17 Kildemateriale 3: MedLands/Familien Van Limburg fortsat tensteindied1106 bavaria, nobility Chapter 26. PFALZGRAFEN von BAYERN. 171 C. PFALZGRAFEN von BAYERN [ARIBONEN] BOTHO (-1 Mar 1104). The primary source which confirms his parentage has not yet been identified. Graf von Botenstein The necrology of Milstatt records the death "Kal Mar" of "Poto com et fundator huius ecclesie" [1095]. m (1056) as her second husband, JUDITH von Schweinfurt, widow of KUNO [Konrad] Duke of Bavaria [Ezzonen], daughter of OTTO Graf von Schweinfurt & his wife Irmgard [Aemilia/Immula] di Susa (-1 Mar 1104). The Annalista Saxo names (in order) "Eilica, Iudhita, Beatrix, Gisla, Berta" as the five daughters of Otto von Schweinfurt and Immula, naming Judith's two husbands [1096]. "Heinricus tertius Romanorum imperator augustus" confirmed the donation of property "villa Rounueld in pago Vueringeon in comitatu Vueringeri" by "Boto Noricus natione vivens Bauarica coniugis sue Iudithæ" by charter dated 2 Sep 1094 [1097]. Graf Botho & his wife had one child: i) ADELHEID (-after 13 Aug 1106). She is named in the Annalista Saxo, which also specifies her parentage and names her husband [1098]. m as his second wife, HENDRIK I Graf van Limburg, son of - -- (-1119). He was installed as HEINRICH I Duke of Lower Lotharingia in Noter/Referencer: [1094] Redlich, O. (ed.) (1886, reprint 1973) Acta Tirolensia. Urkundliche Quellen zur Geschichte Tirols. Band I. Die Traditionsbücher der Hochstifts Brixen (Innsbruck) ("Acta Tirolensia") 66, p. 27. [1095] Necrologium Milstatense, Salzburg Necrologies (Regio Carinthiaca), p [1096] Annalista Saxo [1097] D H IV 440, p. 590, charter marked "verunechtet" in the compilation. [1098] Annalista Saxo [1099] Necrologium Seonense, Salzburg Necrologies, p aner\ /nov.2012 Side 16

18 Kildemateriale 4: Kareldegrote/Familien Van Limburg Karel De Grote, Reeks 170. Voor de oudere generaties wordt verwezen naar Reeks Mathilde van Leuven, tr. Eustachius I graaf van Boulogne, overl. 1049, zoon van Boudewijn II van Boulogne en Adeline. 10. Gerberga van Boulogne, overl. voor september 1049, tr. Frederik III, graaf van Luxemburg, hertog van Neder-Lotharingen, overl. 18 mei 1065, zoon van Frederik van Luxemburg en Irmtrud van Gleiberg. 11. Jutta van Luxemburg, tr. voor 1062 Walram II, graaf van Luxemburg, hertog van Neder-Lotharingen, zoon van Walram van Arlon en Adele van Opper-Lotharingen, overl Hendrik I van Limburg en Arlon, geb. ca. 1059, graaf van Luxemburg, hertog van Neder-Lotharingen, nam deel aan de eerste kruistocht in 1096, overl. 1119, tr. (1) dochter van Walram II, tr.(2) Adelheid van (Pfalz-Bayeren) Pottenstein (Botenstein), geb. ca. 1061, overl. 13 augustus Walram III Paganus van Limburg, de heiden genoemd wegens zijn vete met de bisschop van Luik, geb. 1085, graaf van Luxemburg, hertog van Neder-Lotharingen, overl. 6 aug. 1139, tr. Jutta van Geldern, geb. 1087, overl. 24 juni 1151, dochter van Eberhard van Wassenberg en Clementia van Poitou. Ingezonden door: G.P.Hermans. Kildemateriale 5: Zuiderent/Familien Van Limburg Gen Udo van Limburg, ref. nr ES I.2-229, GrJ566b, GN1985p60. 5,7, [51] Hendrik I van Limburg, (zie dezelfde persoon hierboven in generatie 26) ovl. voor 1119, ref. nr ES I.2-229, ES VII-68. 5,11 Hij trouwde met (Beatrix) van Arlon, getrouwd ca (Beatrix) van Arlon, (zie dezelfde persoon hierboven in generatie 26) ref. nr ES I.2-229, aner\ /nov.2012 Side 17

19 Kildemateriale for ane nr / Kildemateriale 1: Herweijer/Familien Van Limburg Generatie XX WALRAVEN II VAN LIMBURG, graaf van Limburg en Aarlen, hertog van Neder-Lotharingen , overleden ca. 1082, zoon van WALRAM I VAN LIMBURG (zie ) en ADELA VAN OPPER- LOTHARINGEN (zie ). Gehuwd vóór 1062 met JUTTA VAN LUXEMBURG, erfgename van Luxemburg, overleden na 1082, dochter van FREDERIK VAN LUXEMBURG (zie ) en GERBERGE VAN BOULOGNE (zie ). Sønnen Hendrik: Generatie XIX HENDRIK I VAN LIMBURG, graaf van Limburg en Aarlen 1080, hertog van Neder-Lotharingen , overleden 1119, zoon van WALRAVEN II VAN LIMBURG (zie ) en JUTTA VAN LUXEMBURG (zie ) ADELHEID VAN LEOBEN, overleden ca. 1107, dochter van BOTO VAN LEOBEN (zie ) en JUDITTA VAN BEIEREN (zie ). Kildemateriale 2: Wikipedia /Familien Van Limburg nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/walram_ii_van_limburg Walram I van Limburg (?-1082) was tussen 1061 en 1082 de eerste graaf van Limburg die met zekerheid genoemd kan worden. Tevens was hij graaf van Aarlen. Hij wordt soms beschouwd als bouwheer van het slot Limburg, doch deze mening is vooralsnog niet verenigd kunnen worden met het feit de bedoelde burcht zich in 1085 nog in handen bevond van paltsgraaf Herman II van Lotharingen. Zijn zoon Hendrik I, die hem opvolgde als graaf van Limburg, zou in 1101 hertog van Neder-Lotharingen en markgraaf van Antwerpen worden, mede dankzij het huwelijk van zijn vader met Jutta van Neder-Lotharingen. Referentie T. van der Laars, Wapens, vlaggen en zegels van Nederland, Amsterdam, 1913 aner\ /nov.2012 Side 18

20 Kildemateriale 3: Kareldegrote/Familien Van Limburg Karel De Grote, Reeks 170 Voor de oudere generaties wordt verwezen naar Reeks Mathilde van Leuven, tr. Eustachius I graaf van Boulogne, overl. 1049, zoon van Boudewijn II van Boulogne en Adeline. 10. Gerberga van Boulogne, overl. voor september 1049, tr. Frederik III, graaf van Luxemburg, hertog van Neder-Lotharingen, overl. 18 mei 1065, zoon van Frederik van Luxemburg en Irmtrud van Gleiberg. 11. Jutta van Luxemburg, tr. voor 1062 Walram II, graaf van Luxemburg, hertog van Neder-Lotharingen, zoon van Walram van Arlon en Adele van Opper-Lotharingen, overl Hendrik I van Limburg en Arlon, geb. ca. 1059, graaf van Luxemburg, hertog van Neder-Lotharingen, nam deel aan de eerste kruistocht in 1096, overl. 1119, tr. (1) dochter van Walram II, tr.(2) Adelheid van (Pfalz-Bayeren) Pottenstein (Botenstein), geb. ca. 1061, overl. 13 augustus Walram III Paganus van Limburg, de heiden genoemd wegens zijn vete met de bisschop van Luik, geb. 1085, graaf van Luxemburg, hertog van Neder-Lotharingen, overl. 6 aug. 1139, tr. Jutta van Geldern, geb. 1087, overl. 24 juni 1151, dochter van Eberhard van Wassenberg en Clementia van Poitou. Ingezonden door: G.P.Hermans Bronnen: - Detlev Schwennicke - Europäische Stammtafeln. - Ernst von Oidtmann - Sammlung. - A.L. Hulshoff - De Graven en Heren van Limburg aan de Lenne. - M. Flokstra - De bezitters van Kasteel Ooyen door de eeuwen heen. - Piet Lithmaath - Huis Lethmate. - DTB - Broekhuizen, Broekhuizenvorst, Helmond en Weert. - Rijksarchief Limburg - Schepenbank Ooyen. - Johanna H. van Winter - Ministerialiteit en Ridderschap in Gelre en Zutphen. aner\ /nov.2012 Side 19

21 Kildemateriale 4: MedLands/Familien Van Limburg LUXEMBOURG Chapter 1. COMTES de LUXEMBOURG HEINRICH II , GISELBERT 1047-[1059] FRIEDRICH (-28 Aug 1065, bur Stablo) m firstly GERBERGE de Boulogne (-before 1059). Friedrich & his first wife had [two] children: a) [UDO (-after 1065). Graaf van Limburg. "Comes Udo de Lemborch" donated a servant to the church of St Adalbert, Aachen by charter dated 1061 [85]. Advocate of Saint-Trond. A charter dated 1065 issued by Adalbero Bishop of Metz, relating to the rights of the advocate of the abbey of Saint-Trond, refers to "germanum meum ducem Lotharingiæ Fridericum felicis memoriæ" and "domino Udone, fratris mei successore" [86]. The separate existence of Udo Graaf van Limburg is far from certain. The possibility that there was a separate Graaf van Limburg named Udo in the mid-11th century appears excluded by the Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines, which records that "castrum de Lemborch" was built by "Galeranus", son of "Adala comitissa Arolune soror Sigifridi filia ducis Theoderici", who had received "dominium ultra Mosam prope Leodium" as dowry when he married [87]. As noted below, "Galeranus" is identified as Waleran [II] Comte d Arlon, whose wife is recorded in another primary source as Judith de Luxembourg, daughter of Frédéric Duke of Upper Lotharingia, brother of Adalbero Bishop of Metz who issued the 1065 charter quoted above. Alberic therefore appears to leave no room for a Graaf Udo between Duke Frédéric and Graaf Walram. This of course assumes that Alberic s report is accurate, which is not guaranteed given the numerous other points of detail on which his version of events and relationships conflicts with information found in other primary sources. The 1061 and 1065 charters certainly indicate that Alberic s description of the construction of Limburg castle may be compressed, as it is difficult to interpret the documents in any other way than indicating that "domino Udone" was the successor of the same Duke Frédéric. There appear to be three possibilities: Firstly, Udo may have been the same person as Waleran [II] Comte d Arlon who, for unexplained reasons, was called by one name in some sources and another name in others. This is the solution to the problem which was adopted by Ernst in his early 19th century Historie de Limbourg after a detailed review of all the sources [88]. He justifies his conclusion by stating that "les binoms étaient d un usage généralement reçu parmi les princes au moyen âge" and referring to "une foule d exemples", although only citing the example of Walram [II] Graaf van Limburg who is also called "Payen" [89]. However, this is an unsuitable choice to support his hypothesis. It is correct that the Annalista Saxo names Walram [II] "Walrabonum ducem qui et Paginus dicebatur" [90]. aner\ /nov.2012 Side 20

22 Kildemateriale 4: MedLands/Familien Van Limburg fortsat Walram is also named "comes Paganus" and "dux Paganus" in charters dated 15 May 1127 and 13 Jun 1128 respectively [91]. However, "Pagan" seems to have been the appellation used in medieval times for unbaptised children and, where baptism was delayed for some reason, probably continued to be used from force of habit even after the child received his baptismal name. The extract from the Annalista Saxo highlights another common feature of double names, which are frequently referred to in primary sources linked by some such qualifier as "dicebatur" or "cognominatus", which is not the case with Udo/Walram. The solution of a double name cannot be excluded but it is probably a last resort in case no other solution presents itself. Secondly, Udo may have been the otherwise unrecorded son of Duke Frédéric who succeeded his father but died soon after, leaving Limburg to his sister and her husband Waleran [II]. One difficulty with this interpretation is that the 1065 charter uses the word "successore" without adding "filio". Thirdly, Udo could have been the husband of an otherwise unrecorded older daughter of Duke Frédéric, the castle of Limburg passing to the younger daughter Judith who was married to Waléran [II] Comte d Arlon (see below). Whatever the correct solution to this conundrum, it appears unwise to ignore altogether the possible existence of a separate Graaf Udo. He is therefore shown in this document in square brackets, linked to Frédéric Duke of Upper Lotharingia as a possible son rather than son-in-law only because the display format in the document does not easily lend itself to showing one person with two different ancestries.] Noter/Referencer: [84] Genealogia ex stirpe Sancti Arnulfi descendentium Mettensis 7, MGH SS XXV, p [85] Ernst, S. P. (1847) Histoire de Limbourg, Tome VI (Liège), XXI, p [86] Ernst, S. P. (1838) Histoire de Limbourg, Tome II (Liège), p. 37, quoting Bertholet, J. (1743) Histoire de Luxembourg, t. III, pr., p. 29. [87] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1064, MGH SS XXIII, p [88] Ernst (1838), Tome II, pp [89] Ernst (1838), Tome II, p. 40, footnote 2. [90] Annalista Saxo [91] Ernst, S. P. (1839) Histoire de Limbourg, Tome III (Liège), pp , citing Miræus, A. Opera diplomatica, tome IV, p. 197, and Bondam, P. (1783) Charterboek der Hertogen van Gelderland, tome I, section II, num. 24, p. 177 (both sources in Google Book "No preview available" [10 Nov 2008]). [92] Genealogica ex Stirpe Sancti Arnulfi descendentium Mettensis 4, MGH SS XXV, p aner\ /nov.2012 Side 21

23 Kildemateriale 4: MedLands/Familien Van Limburg fortsat LIMBURG INTRODUCTION The county of Limburg was situated within the duchy of Lower Lotharingia, taking its name from the small town of Limburg between Verviers and Eupen in the province of Liège in present-day Belgium. Its territory now lies within the Belgian provinces of Limburg and Liège, and the province of Limburg in the Netherlands. The origin of the family of the counts of Limburg has not been traced before the middle of the 11th century. Nor is it clear exactly when or how Hendrik [I] was first granted the county of Limburg towards the end of the 11th century. Count Hendrik must quickly have become an influential force at the court of Emperor Heinrich IV as he was installed as duke of Lower Lotharingia in He was, however, a quarrelsome imperial subject, rebelling against the emperor in the same year (when the castle of Limburg was destroyed by imperial troops) and being deprived of his duchy in Between then and 1139, appointments to the duchy of Lower Lotharingia alternated between his family and that of the rival counts of Louvain, each family continuing to claim the ducal title while it was held by the other. The counts of Limburg called themselves dukes of Limburg from 1140, the ducal title presumably being retained in a personal capacity even though they had ceased to be dukes of Lower Lotharingia by that time. No specific imperial order has yet been identified which authorised the new title, although it is clear that it was generally recognised and accepted. Chapter 1. GRAFEN van LIMBURG UDO [1061/65], 1. [UDO, son of [FREDERIC Duke of Lower Lotharingia [Luxembourg] & his first wife Gerberge de Boulogne] (-after 1065). Graaf van Limburg. "Comes Udo de Lemborch" donated a servant to the church of St Adalbert, Aachen by charter dated 1061 [5]. Advocate of Saint-Trond. A charter dated 1065 issued by Adalbero Bishop of Metz, relating to the rights of the advocate of the abbey of Saint-Trond, refers to "germanum meum ducem Lotharingiæ Fridericum felicis memoriæ" and "domino Udone, fratris mei successore" [6]. The separate existence of Udo Graaf van Limburg is far from certain. The possibility that there was a separate Graaf van Limburg named Udo in the mid-11th century appears excluded by the Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines, which records that "castrum de Lemborch" was built by "Galeranus", son of "Adala comitissa Arolune soror Sigifridi filia ducis Theoderici", who had received "dominium ultra Mosam prope Leodium" as dowry when he married [7]. aner\ /nov.2012 Side 22

24 Kildemateriale 4: MedLands/Familien Van Limburg fortsat As noted below, "Galeranus" is identified as Waleran [II] Comte d Arlon, whose wife is recorded in another primary source as Judith de Luxembourg, daughter of Frédéric Duke of Upper Lotharingia, brother of Adalbero Bishop of Metz who issued the 1065 charter quoted above. Alberic therefore appears to leave no room for a Graaf Udo between Duke Frédéric and Graaf Walram. This of course assumes that Alberic s report is accurate, which is not guaranteed given the numerous other points of detail on which his version of events and relationships conflicts with information found in other primary sources. The 1061 and 1065 charters certainly indicate that Alberic s description of the construction of Limburg castle may be compressed, as it is difficult to interpret the documents in any other way than indicating that "domino Udone" was the successor of the same Duke Frédéric. There appear to be three possibilities: Firstly, Udo may have been the same person as Waleran [II] Comte d Arlon who, for unexplained reasons, was called by one name in some sources and another name in others. This is the solution to the problem which was adopted by Ernst in his early 19th century Historie de Limbourg after a detailed review of all the sources [8]. He justifies his conclusion by stating that "les binoms étaient d un usage généralement reçu parmi les princes au moyen âge" and referring to "une foule d exemples", although only citing the example of Walram [II] Graaf van Limburg who is also called "Payen" [9]. However, this is an unsuitable choice to support his hypothesis. It is correct that the Annalista Saxo names Walram [II] "Walrabonum ducem qui et Paginus dicebatur" [10]. Walram is also named "comes Paganus" and "dux Paganus" in charters dated 15 May 1127 and 13 Jun 1128 respectively [11]. However, "Pagan" seems to have been the appellation used in medieval times for unbaptised children and, where baptism was delayed for some reason, probably continued to be used from force of habit even after the child received his baptismal name. The extract from the Annalista Saxo highlights another common feature of double names, which are frequently referred to in primary sources linked by some such qualifier as "dicebatur" or "cognominatus", which is not the case with Udo/Walram. The solution of a double name cannot be excluded but it is probably a last resort in case no other solution presents itself. Secondly, Udo may have been the otherwise unrecorded son of Duke Frédéric who succeeded his father but died soon after, leaving Limburg to his sister and her husband Waleran [II]. One difficulty with this interpretation is that the 1065 charter uses the word "successore" without adding "filio". Thirdly, Udo could have been the husband of an otherwise unrecorded older daughter of Duke Frédéric, the castle of Limburg passing to the younger daughter Judith who was married to Waléran [II] Comte d Arlon (see below). aner\ /nov.2012 Side 23

25 Kildemateriale 4: MedLands/Familien Van Limburg fortsat Whatever the correct solution to this conundrum, it appears unwise to ignore altogether the possible existence of a separate Graaf Udo. He is therefore shown in this document in square brackets, linked to Frédéric Duke of Upper Lotharingia in the document LUXEMBOURG as a possible son.] 1. WALERAN [II] d'arlon, son of WALERAN [I] Comte d Arlon & his wife Adelais of Lotharingia (-1081). The Gesta Treverorum names "Walrammi et Folconis" as sons of "comitissa [Adelheid] de castello Aralunæ" [12]. Eberhard Archbishop of Trier refers to past donations by "comite Walrammo de Arlo et uxore ipsius Adelheide" in two charters dated 1052 and 1053, the second one referring to the confirmation of donations by "filiorum eorum Walrammi et Folconis" after the death of their parents [13]. Comte d'arlon. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines records that the dowry of Waleran's wife was "dominium ultra Mosam prope Leodium" and that he constructed "castrum de Lemborch" on the site [14]. Graaf von Limburg. Archbishop Udo of Trier donated property to Trier St Simon by charter dated 29 Jan 1068, subscribed by "Theoderici comitis, Henrici fratris eius, Walrammi comitis, Folconis comitis, Stephani comitis " [15]. " Walrammus et frater eius Volko comites de Arlo " subscribed the charter dated 1093 under which "Heinricus comes palatinus Rheni et dominus de Lacu uxore mei Adleide" founded the abbey of Laach [16], although this document may be spurious in light of the date of death of Comte Waleran. m JUDITH de Luxembourg, daughter of FREDERIC Duke of Lower Lotharingia [Luxembourg] & his first wife Gerberge de Boulogne. The Genealogica ex Stirpe Sancti Arnulfi names "Iuttam" as daughter of "Friderici ducis" and his wife Mathilde (presumably an error for Gerberge), naming her son "Henricum de Lemburc" [17], although another source quoted below states that Hendrik was Judith's son-in-law not her son. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines records that the dowry of Waleran's wife was "dominium ultra Mosam prope Leodium" [18]. Waleran [II] & his wife had one child: a) [--- d'arlon (-[after 1081]). The Gesta Treverorum refers to "huius comitissa [=Adelheid] neptem, filii filiam" as wife of "Heinricus dux Lempurch" [19]. The countess referred to was the wife of Waleran [I] Comte d Arlon, and her son, father of Hendrik van Limburg s wife, would therefore in this scenario have been Waleran [II] Comte d Arlon. The Genealogica ex Stirpe Sancti Arnulfi takes a different view and names "Henricum de Lemburc" as the son of "Iuttam", daughter of "Friderici ducis" and his wife Mathilde [20], in which case Waleran [II] Comte d Arlon would have been Hendrik s father. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines also records that "Henricus Lembergensis" was the son of "antiqui Walerani", presumably indicating Waleran [II] Comte d Arlon [21]. aner\ /nov.2012 Side 24

26 Kildemateriale 4: MedLands/Familien Van Limburg fortsat The sources are therefore contradictory. If the Gesta Treverorum is correct, Hendrik s first wife must have died soon after their marriage as she is not recorded as the mother of his children. It is assumed that she must have died after her father, otherwise it seems likely that Waleran would have disinherited his son-in-law from the castle of Limburg. m [as his first wife,] HENDRIK I Graaf van Limburg, son of --- (-1119).] Two] brothers: 1. HENDRIK [I] van Limburg (-1119). There is confusion about the parentage of Hendrik [I] van Limburg. According to Europäische Stammtafeln, he was the son of [Udo] van Limburg and his wife Judith von Salm, who was supposedly daughter of Giselbert Graf von Salm and Comte de Longwy [Wigerich] [22]. If we look at the primary sources, they are contradictory. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines records that "Henricus Lembergensis" was the son of "antiqui Walerani" [23]. It is assumed that "Walerani" was Waleran [II] Comte d Arlon (see above). The Genealogica ex Stirpe Sancti Arnulfi names "Henricum de Lemburc" as the son of "Iuttam", daughter of "Friderici ducis" and his wife Mathilde [24], which, if the reconstruction of the family of the comtes d Arlon is correct, also indicates that Comte Waleran [II] was Hendrik s father. The Gesta Treverorum, on the other hand, refers to "huius comitissa [=Adelheid] neptem, filii filiam" as wife of "Heinricus dux Lempurch" [25]. The countess referred to was the wife of Waleran [I] Comte d Arlon, and in this scenario her son, Waleran [II] Comte d Arlon, would have been the father of Hendrik s wife not of Hendrik himself. The references which have been found to "Udo van Limburg" are set out above, where it is suggested that he was either the son of Frédéric Duke of Lower Lotharingia or the same person as Waleran [II] Comte d Arlon. No other reference has been to "Udo s" supposed wife "Judith von Salm". It is suggested that references to her could easily have resulted from confusion with the wife of Waleran [II], also named Judith/Jutta and also a member of the Salm/Luxembourg family. The question which remains is whether Hendrik van Limburg was the son or the son-in-law of Waleran [II] Comte d Arlon. There is really no way of judging which of the contradictory sources quoted above may be correct. However, if Hendrik s supposed brother Konrad von Merheim did exist as shown below (and it should be noted that no primary source has yet been found which corroborates Konrad s relationship to Hendrik), it appears less likely that Hendrik would have been Waleran s son as, if that had been the case, the sources would probably have named the two brothers together. In addition, no reference to the name Hendrik/Henri has been found in the family of the comtes d Arlon, although it must be emphasised that their known genealogy is limited as can be seen in the document UPPER LOTHARINGIAN NOBILITY. aner\ /nov.2012 Side 25

27 Kildemateriale 4: MedLands/Familien Van Limburg fortsat Graaf van Limburg. " Heinricus dux de Lemburg " subscribed the charter dated 1093 under which "Heinricus comes palatinus Rheni et dominus de Lacu uxore mei Adleide" founded the abbey of Laach [26], although, as pointed out in the chapter concerning the comtes d Arlon in UPPER LOTHARINGIAN NOBILITY, the naming of the other witnesses suggests that this charter is spurious. Emperor Heinrich IV installed him as HEINRICH I Duke of Lower Lotharingia in "Heinricus comes de Lintburh cum Theoderico comite" rebelled against Emperor Heinrich IV in 1101, the castle of Limburg being captured and destroyed by imperial forces [27]. He was deposed as duke in [m firstly --- d'arlon, daughter of WALERAN [II] Comte d'arlon & his wife --- (-[after 1081]). The Gesta Treverorum refers to "huius comitissa [=Adelheid] neptem, filii filiam" as wife of "Heinricus dux Lempurch" [28]. The countess referred to was the wife of Waleran [I] Comte d Arlon, and her son, father of Hendrik van Limburg s wife, would therefore in this scenario have been Waleran [II] Comte d Arlon (see above). The Genealogica ex Stirpe Sancti Arnulfi takes a different view and names "Henricum de Lemburc" as the son of "Iuttam", daughter of "Friderici ducis" and his wife Mathilde [29], in which case Waleran [II] Comte d Arlon would have been Hendrik s father. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines also records that "Henricus Lembergensis" was the son of "antiqui Walerani", which is interpreted as indicating Waleran [II] Comte d Arlon [30]. The sources are therefore contradictory. If the Gesta Treverorum is correct, Hendrik s first wife must have died soon after their marriage as she is not recorded as the mother of his children. It is assumed that she must have died after her father, otherwise it seems likely that Waleran would have disinherited his son-in-law from the castle of Limburg.] m [secondly] ADELHEID von Botenstein, daughter of BOTHO Graf von Botenstein & his wife Judith von Schweinfurt (-after 13 Aug 1106). She is named in the Annalista Saxo, which also specifies her parentage and names her husband [31]. Graf Hendrik & his [second] wife had [five] children: 2. [KONRAD von Merheim (-after 1088). The primary source which confirms his parentage has not yet been identified.] - HERREN von MERHEIM. Noter/Referencer: [4] Gade (1951), pp. 106 and 108. [5] Ernst, S. P. (1847) Histoire de Limbourg, Tome VI (Liège), XXI, p [6] Ernst, S. P. (1838) Histoire de Limbourg, Tome II (Liège), p. 37, quoting Bertholet, J. (1743) Histoire de Luxembourg, t. III, pr., p. 29. [7] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1064, MGH SS XXIII, p aner\ /nov.2012 Side 26

28 Kildemateriale 4: MedLands/Familien Van Limburg fortsat [8] Ernst (1838), Tome II, pp [9] Ernst (1838), Tome II, p. 40, footnote 2. [10] Annalista Saxo [11] Ernst, S. P. (1839) Histoire de Limbourg, Tome III (Liège), pp , citing Miræus, A. Opera diplomatica, tome IV, p. 197, and Bondam, P. (1783) Charterboek der Hertogen van Gelderland, tome I, section II, num. 24, p. 177 (both sources in Google Book "No preview available" [10 Nov 2008]). [12] Gesta Treverorum 16, 1122, MGH SS VIII, p The date "1032" is included in the footnote by the editor. [13] Beyer, H. (ed.) (1860) Urkundenbuch zur Geschichte der, jetzt die Preussischen Regierungsbezirke Coblenz und Trier bildenden Mittelrheinischen Territorien (Coblenz), Vol. I, ( Mittelrheinisches Urkundenbuch I ), 338 and 339, pp , consulted at < (12 Dec 2007). [14] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1064, MGH SS XXIII, p [15] Mittelrheinisches Urkundenbuch 367, p [16] Mittelrheinisches Urkundenbuch 388, p [17] Genealogica ex Stirpe Sancti Arnulfi descendentium Mettensis 4, MGH SS XXV, p [18] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1064, MGH SS XXIII, p [19] Gesta Treverorum 16, 1122, MGH SS VIII, p [20] Genealogica ex Stirpe Sancti Arnulfi descendentium Mettensis 4, MGH SS XXV, p [21] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1107, MGH SS XXIII, p [22] ES I [23] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1107, MGH SS XXIII, p [24] Genealogica ex Stirpe Sancti Arnulfi descendentium Mettensis 4, MGH SS XXV, p [25] Gesta Treverorum 16, 1122, MGH SS VIII, p [26] Mittelrheinisches Urkundenbuch 388, p [27] Annalista Saxo [28] Gesta Treverorum 16, 1122, MGH SS VIII, p [29] Genealogica ex Stirpe Sancti Arnulfi descendentium Mettensis 4, MGH SS XXV, p [30] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1107, MGH SS XXIII, p [31] Annalista Saxo [32] Annalista Saxo aner\ /nov.2012 Side 27

29 Kildemateriale 4: MedLands/Familien Van Limburg fortsat Chapter 1. COMTES de LUXEMBOURG FRIEDRICH, son of SIEGFRIED Comte [de Luxembourg] & his wife Hedwig --- (-6 Oct 1019) ] m --- [von Hammerstein]. Graf Friedrich & his wife had ten children: 4. GISELBERT (-14 Aug [1056/59]). " Friderico comite eiusque fratribus, Gisilberto et Theoderico " were among the witnesses of the testament dated 12 Nov 1036 left by "Adalbero prepositus S Paulini Treuerensis, dominus de Ruscheio, de Serico, de Sarburch et de Berincastel", who was their paternal uncle [96]. The primary source which confirms that Friedrich was the father of the three brothers has not yet been identified. Graf von Salm An exchange of property between the abbeys of St Maximin and Malmédy by charter dated 1035 is witnessed by "comes Gislebertus de Salmo" [97]. Gade speculates that Giselbert obtained the stronghold of Salm by marriage [98]. Referred to as "comes de castello Lucelinburg" and "Gilbertus Luceburgenses comes", he succeeded his brother in 1047 as Comte de [Luxembourg]. He was "a wild, warlike man who seized every opportunity to increase his power". He seized land from the abbeys of Echternach and St Maximin, in the district of Köln and from the Poppo Archbishop of Trier [99]. Vogt of St Maximin at Trier and of Echternach. He was killed in an uprising in Italy [100]. m ---. The name of Giselbert's wife is not known. However, as noted above, Gade speculates that Giselbert obtained the stronghold of Salm through his marriage [101]. Giselbert & his wife had [six] children: a) KONRAD von Salm (-in Palestine 8 Aug 1086, bur Luxembourg Münster Abbey). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "comitis Conradis" as son of "Gislebertus comes de Luscelenburch" [102]. Vogt of St Maximin at Trier and of Stablo. - see below. b) ADALBERO von Salm (-Antioch 1097). The primary source which confirms his parentage has not yet been identified. Primicerius at Metz. c) HERMANN von Salm (-killed in battle 28 Sep 1088, bur Metz). The primary source which confirms his parentage has not yet been identified. Graf von Salm. He was elected as HERMANN King of Germany in GRAFEN von SALM. d) [JUDITH von Salm. According to Europäische Stammtafeln, "Judith von Salm", supposedly daughter of Giselbert Graf von Salm and Comte de Longwy [Wigerich], was the wife of "[Udo] van Limburg", and this couple were the parents of Hendrik Graaf van Limburg [103]. The primary source which confirms this proposition has not yet been identified. On the basis of the information so far found in primary sources, it is unlikely that this supposed couple existed. aner\ /nov.2012 Side 28

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